S5 E35 Part 2: Finding and Rejecting God: packed Exodus lessons on what to do and not to do! (Exodus 19-34)
The Scriptures Are Real
Kerry Muhlestein
4.8 • 539 Ratings
🗓️ 19 April 2026
⏱️ 76 minutes
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For fantastic extra content, join us at https://www.patreon.com/c/EnlightenEdgeEDU , where you will also be supporting the podcast. This week the extra content will help you understand your temple experience better by drawing on the temples of ancient Egypt.
In this episode Kerry explores the amazing experience Israel had in coming into the presence of God, Then Kerry and Andrew Skinner and Joshua Matson explore the golden calf episode in a roundtable, and then Kerry and Paul Hoskisson discuss more lessons we can learn from this event.
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| 0:00.0 | All right, welcome to another exciting week at the Scriptures Are Real podcast. |
| 0:14.3 | This week we have a part two. |
| 0:17.5 | Don't miss part one, but join us now for part two. |
| 0:20.6 | There's so much good information we needed to give you more about this. |
| 0:24.6 | Welcome to another segment of our roundtable discussions. |
| 0:27.6 | I'm Kerry Mielstein. I have with me Dr. Andrew Skinner and Dr. Joshua Mattson. |
| 0:32.6 | We all a teacher have taught at the BYU religious education ancient scripture department. |
| 0:40.5 | And today we're going to talk about one of the most pivotal stories in the Old Testament |
| 0:46.6 | and a crucial story that has some elements of it that are maybe a little disturbing or can bring |
| 0:53.0 | up some questions. And that is the story of the golden |
| 0:56.0 | calf. But to get to understanding the golden calf, I think we're going to have to start |
| 0:59.8 | earlier than that with just the whole approach to Mount Sinai. And I know we all have lots to |
| 1:06.2 | say about that. I don't know. Who would like to start us out? Well, I would even take us back further |
| 1:12.5 | and state that priesthood authority that operates in the lives of everyone from the time of |
| 1:21.7 | Adam up to the time of Moses is Melchizedic priesthood. There was no separate or lesser Levittical priesthood. There was no |
| 1:30.0 | lesser law. It was all Melchizedic priesthood. Religious and civil, civic government were merged |
| 1:38.8 | into one under the patriarchs. And so the opportunities for temple covenants, as I understand them, were available |
| 1:49.3 | from the time of Adam to Moses. And then, of course, the children of Israel end up in Egypt, |
| 1:56.9 | and there begins their great trial. Yeah, good, good. |
| 2:01.1 | And it's worth noting that it's not only the Moccasidic priesthood, |
| 2:04.3 | but that we're talking about the patriarchal order, |
| 2:06.6 | which I've had an episode already kind of discussing what the patriarchal order is |
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