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The Cure for Chronic Pain with Nicole Sachs, LCSW

S5 E11 - Severe CFS/ME/Long Covid Recovery with Jay

The Cure for Chronic Pain with Nicole Sachs, LCSW

Nicole Sachs, LCSW

Spirituality, Alternative Health, Religion & Spirituality, Health & Fitness

4.92.8K Ratings

🗓️ 14 November 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Learn how to JournalSpeak ➡️  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.yourbreakawake.com/journalspeak⁠ At 21, Jay was living an extraordinary life — an international freestyle skier and full-time Math and Computer Science student. After winning a national ski competition, he caught Covid — and everything changed. As the virus faded, Jay was left with crushing fatigue that spiraled into ME/CFS and Long Covid. Within months, he became 97% bedbound — unable to walk to the bathroom or care for himself. His parents became his lifeline, researching desperately while he struggled to survive. Then Jay’s father found Gary (Season 3, Episode 26) who introduced them to my work, and Jay’s cognitive symptoms began to lift. With a consistent JournalSpeak practice and MindBody mindset, he is now completely recovered - competing and training again harder than ever. Jay’s story is a stunning reminder that there is more to illness than meets the eye. Join us for this incredible conversation. XOOX n. PLEASE RATE AND REVIEW THE PODCAST HERE TO HELP OTHERS FIND IT! Producer: Lisa Eisenpresser ~~~~~ SUPPORT: 🟠 Struggling with chronic pain? Check out my Freedom From Chronic Pain course   GET THE FIRST LESSON FREE: https://www.yourbreakawake.com/painfree⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🟠  Anxiety controlling your life? Try my Freedom From an Anxious Life course  GET THE FIRST LESSON FREE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.yourbreakawake.com/anxietyfree⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  🧠  Learn more about the brain science and clinical experiences in my book   MIND YOUR BODY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.yourbreakawake.com/book ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  💛  Receive support, guidance, connection, and direct access to Nicole with  MEMBERSHIP: https://www.yourbreakawake.com/membership⁠ ~~~~ THE CURE FOR CHRONIC PAIN JOIN THE CONVERSATION ON INSTAGRAM  👉   https://www.instagram.com/nicolesachslcsw⁠ SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👉   https://podfollow.com/the-cure-for-chronic-pain-with-nicole-sachs-lcsw⁠ LEARN ABOUT ANNUAL OMEGA RETREAT ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👉   https://www.yourbreakawake.com/work-with-nicole Podcast music by the beautiful and talented Danielle Furst: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@musicfurst⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Cure for Chronic Pain podcast with me, Nicole Sacks. You are here.

0:13.4

Hello, hello. How's everybody today? This is Nicole, and you have reached my podcast,

0:19.2

The Cure for Chronic Pain. Welcome to it. So today we have

0:23.7

one of those episodes that made me stop in my tracks when I first received the email. So the story

0:30.9

goes, as it always does, that we are a global community and we are all connected and the most

0:37.4

crazy shit happens all the time

0:40.2

that makes me realize this is why I am here on this earth. So Jay contacted me and he started

0:46.4

telling his story and as I'm reading this email, I am floored. Literally had to stop and reread from the top more than once because I was like, this can't be true.

0:59.0

You may have heard the podcast that I recorded with Gary, who had long COVID in New Zealand.

1:05.0

Well, the story starts before Gary because the story starts with Leika, who is also on this podcast, whose story is also in Mind Your Body,

1:14.6

who heard about my work, who did the work, who cured herself of the most debilitating

1:21.6

long COVID, who was interviewed in the Netherlands, who was picked up on the wire.

1:30.3

Somehow the story got to Gary's wife in New Zealand.

1:36.0

Gary was completely down for the count.

1:39.0

He was suffering with such severe long COVID that he was unable to work, concentrate, read, walk up a flight of stairs.

1:50.3

And any of these stories are available on the podcast and both Leika and Gary's stories are in my book.

1:55.6

So these are the extreme stories.

1:58.2

But anyway, Jay's father comes across Gary's story. And this is the moment that is going

2:07.3

to change Jay's life. He was and is a competitive skier, traveling the world, competing in the

2:15.7

most extreme fashion. He's a baby. I think this whole thing

2:20.2

began when he was 19, 20 years old. And he went from competing rigorously and training year

2:27.9

round to being so debilitated with long COVID that he was bedbound, unable to care for himself, feed himself, take care of

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