S5 E11 - Severe CFS/ME/Long Covid Recovery with Jay
The Cure for Chronic Pain with Nicole Sachs, LCSW
Nicole Sachs, LCSW
4.9 • 2.8K Ratings
🗓️ 14 November 2025
⏱️ 52 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Cure for Chronic Pain podcast with me, Nicole Sacks. You are here. |
| 0:13.4 | Hello, hello. How's everybody today? This is Nicole, and you have reached my podcast, |
| 0:19.2 | The Cure for Chronic Pain. Welcome to it. So today we have |
| 0:23.7 | one of those episodes that made me stop in my tracks when I first received the email. So the story |
| 0:30.9 | goes, as it always does, that we are a global community and we are all connected and the most |
| 0:37.4 | crazy shit happens all the time |
| 0:40.2 | that makes me realize this is why I am here on this earth. So Jay contacted me and he started |
| 0:46.4 | telling his story and as I'm reading this email, I am floored. Literally had to stop and reread from the top more than once because I was like, this can't be true. |
| 0:59.0 | You may have heard the podcast that I recorded with Gary, who had long COVID in New Zealand. |
| 1:05.0 | Well, the story starts before Gary because the story starts with Leika, who is also on this podcast, whose story is also in Mind Your Body, |
| 1:14.6 | who heard about my work, who did the work, who cured herself of the most debilitating |
| 1:21.6 | long COVID, who was interviewed in the Netherlands, who was picked up on the wire. |
| 1:30.3 | Somehow the story got to Gary's wife in New Zealand. |
| 1:36.0 | Gary was completely down for the count. |
| 1:39.0 | He was suffering with such severe long COVID that he was unable to work, concentrate, read, walk up a flight of stairs. |
| 1:50.3 | And any of these stories are available on the podcast and both Leika and Gary's stories are in my book. |
| 1:55.6 | So these are the extreme stories. |
| 1:58.2 | But anyway, Jay's father comes across Gary's story. And this is the moment that is going |
| 2:07.3 | to change Jay's life. He was and is a competitive skier, traveling the world, competing in the |
| 2:15.7 | most extreme fashion. He's a baby. I think this whole thing |
| 2:20.2 | began when he was 19, 20 years old. And he went from competing rigorously and training year |
| 2:27.9 | round to being so debilitated with long COVID that he was bedbound, unable to care for himself, feed himself, take care of |
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