For me, a big part of Pallini was being at this intersection of kind of developer tools on the one side and cloud on the other side.

And I think a lot of the folks, especially the early folks who came to Pallumi, were really excited about working at that intersection and about kind of pushing forward where the industry was in terms of that intersection.

And that, you know, let us, there's a lot of really great folks out there

who were excited about that intersection, excited about both of developer tools in cloud.

And so we were able to talk to them about our vision and get them excited about that.

And once folks were excited about that, many or most of the cases, they wanted to come

and be part of it. My name is Luke Hibbin. I'm the CTO at Palumi.

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Luke open has been into tech and computers for many, many years.

It started off when he was a kid, but sailed with him into college as he got into

languages. He spent the first part of his career at Microsoft building tools, IDEs, and programming

languages. His take on the frame of mind required to build a language is centered around what you

wanted to do, combined with how it feels for the programmer to express what they want it to do.

Bottom line, it is an art, not a science, and is much more about product and user interaction

design and anything.

Post Microsoft, Luke went to work for Amazon, on the cloud, specifically EC2.

The thing he had in the back of his head for many years

was how to bring the programming model into the cloud space.

He eventually left Amazon and set out to combine his love

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