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Hello and welcome to How do you cope with Ellis and John?

Before listening to today's conversation with Terry White, it's important to mention that issues of self-harm, sexual abuse, substance abuse and alcohol abuse are all covered throughout the following episode.

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BBC 5 live this is how do you cope with Ellis James and John Robbins.

Hello everyone and welcome to how do you cope with Ellis and John.

Today's guest is Terry White,

editor of Empire Magazine,

who is speaking to us about the trauma she experienced

as a child and how that led to problems with her mental health

through substance abuse, self-harm and which ended with her being admitted to a psychiatric ward in in New York

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