Before you listen to this BBC podcast I'd like to introduce myself. My name's

Stevie Middleton and I'm a BBC Commissioner for a load of sport

podcasts. I'm lucky to do that at the BBC because I get to work with leading

journalists, experienced pundits and the biggest

sports stars. Together we bring you untold stories and fascinating insights

straight from the player's mouth. But the best thing about doing this at the BBC is

our unique access to the sporting world.

What that means is that we can bring you podcasts that create a real connection to

dedicated sports fans across the UK.

So if you like this podcast, head over to BBC Sounds where you'll find plenty more.

BBC Sounds, Music Radio Podcasts.

Hello and welcome to How Do You Cope with Elles and John?

This is the seventh episode of Series 2,

and today we're speaking to TV presenter and fashion stylist Grace Woodward.

We just thought we'd pop up to mention that there is swearing in this week's episode, so enter with caution if that's not your thing.

And if you're affected by any of the issues raised in this week's episode, there's more information at BBC.co.

UK forward slash action line. For all previously released episodes of how do you... BBC.

For all previously released episodes of How Do You Cope, including George Ezra, Josie Long and

Fabrice Mo Amber, make sure you subscribe to this podcast feed

from wherever you usually get your podcasts.

BBC 5 Live.

How Do You Cope with Ellis and John?

...