S2 Ep154: Sorry, The 25th Amendment Can't Save Us From Trump (w/ Andrew Weissmann)
The Illegal News with Sarah Longwell
The Bulwark
4.9 • 3.4K Ratings
🗓️ 8 April 2026
⏱️ 64 minutes
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Summary
Sarah Longwell and Andrew Weissmann explain the legality of Trump’s unhinged Iran threats, the legal reality behind “war crimes” warnings, and the global fallout of a strategy with no clear objective. They also discuss Trump’s push to control elections, why it’s likely unconstitutional—and why losing in court may actually be part of the plan. Plus, the Steve Bannon case and what it says about a system where accountability depends on loyalty to the president.
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| 0:30.0 | The judge goes, get out. |
| 0:34.4 | Get out. |
| 0:36.0 | You're out. |
| 0:36.9 | Leave. |
| 0:41.7 | Yeah. Get out. You're out. Leave. Hello, everyone, and welcome to the illegal news. I'm Sarah Longwell, publisher of the |
| 0:46.7 | bulwark, and my guest today is the great and greatest and best. Andrew Weissman is here. |
| 0:53.5 | I'm always so glad when I saw that you were the guest, I was so like, yay, it's Andrew |
| 0:57.6 | today. |
| 0:58.2 | That's my Dave. |
| 0:59.4 | I'm not going to say this because I did do the show with JVL and he was great, but it |
| 1:05.7 | was great when I was like, oh, wait, it's Sarah. |
| 1:08.6 | Listen, I love all my guests equally, obviously, like my children. |
| 1:13.1 | But there's just, you know, I always feel like you're going to tell me a good story. |
| 1:18.2 | Wait, I feel like we're, I'm getting downgraded because last time I could have sworn you said I was your favorite. |
| 1:26.2 | So now I did just, I just said it. But then I, but then I started |
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