S2 Ep1059: Sam Stein: The Divorce

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.6 • 8.9K Ratings

🗓️ 6 June 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Elon went nuclear, accusing Trump of being a pedo, taking credit for his election victory, and calling for his impeachment. Trump in return may try to destroy Musk's businesses, or worse. While the public feud is entertaining—Thursday was one of the best days for Twitter and Steve Bannon—their meltdown is also frightening. It shows that we are at the mercy of two emotionally unstable men who can blackmail each other. Of course, Republicans and Fox desperately want the clash to end, because for starters, it could complicate the passage of a tax and spending bill that only Stephen Miller can love. Plus, JD is still a wimp, and Howard Lutnick is still a fool.

Sam Stein joins Tim Miller for the weekend pod.

show notes

Action for Andry: Protest at SCOTUS at 5pm Friday
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0:00.0	The weather. Tomorrow, expect a biting cold front. Hmm, how naughty. I wonder what I'll be
0:06.8	wearing or taking off. The night will be wild and untamed. Expect heavy, lashing rain
0:13.0	that'll soak you to the skin. By Monday, temperatures will rise slowly but surely reaching
0:18.7	their peak in the afternoon.
0:23.0	Not in the mood for miserable weather?
0:25.8	Fly cheaply to Turkey with Sun Express.
0:43.3	Sun Express, non-stop sunshine. Hello and welcome to the Bullard podcast. I'm your host Tim Miller.
0:44.7	We are coming at you live from DC because we have our fundraiser tonight.
0:48.3	Free Andre, which is now sold out at the Lincoln Theater, but we have a rally beforehand
0:53.0	over at the Supreme Court at 5 o'clock.
0:55.3	So hope to see some of you all there.
0:56.9	I am delighted to be here with my buddy, Sam Stein, managing editor of the bulwark.
1:01.2	And what a great day for us to meet together for this.
1:04.0	Lots of stuff happening.
1:05.4	You know, the only thing that sucks is like the worst time for news to happen for me for this podcast is like the early afternoon
1:11.9	because we tape it late morning and it goes out in the afternoon. I finish taping and then the
1:17.5	messiest divorce in history happens. So that was almost sad. But guess what? We get to go through it
1:22.2	minute by minute together. But before we do, obviously we got to start with the big news of the day.
1:26.6	And so I just, I want to go to a quick clip and and we'll get to the lead story before we get to Musk and Trump.
1:32.6	But we begin tonight with the flurry of activity today at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
1:37.8	And yes, let not your heart be troubled.
1:39.6	I will address the battle between President Trump and Elon Musk.
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