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The Bulwark Podcast

S2 Ep1060: Ta-Nehisi Coates: A Natural Human Reaction

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 9 June 2025

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Summary

Trump and Stephen Miller wanted a backlash against the immigration raids, because even they know that humans will respond when the federal government is snatching people off the street. But the tenor of modern protests is not going to be like the Civil Rights Movement, because activists back then were trained to suppress their natural inclination to defend themselves. Plus, the key role of culture in politics, Dems have to show that the state does good things, and it's the 10th anniversary of Ta-Nehisi's landmark book, “Between the World and Me.” And in a special bonus segment from our live show last Friday, Tim interviews Andry's lawyer and explains why he's been so moved by the case to free Andry from CECOT.

Ta-Nehisi Coates and attorney Lindsay Toczylowski join Tim Miller
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0:00.0

Rural communities are being squeezed from every side.

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From rising health care costs to crumbling hospitals,

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from attacks on public schools, to the fight for paid family and medical leave.

0:13.0

Farmers and small businesses are reeling from the trade war,

0:18.0

and now Project 2025 is back with a plan to finish what Elon Musk started.

0:24.8

Trump and the Republicans won rural votes, then turn their backs on us.

0:30.8

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0:39.9

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0:43.9

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0:49.2

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0:52.4

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0:54.1

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0:58.0

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1:05.0

The weather. Tomorrow, expect a biting cold front.

1:09.2

Mmm, how naughty. I wonder what I'll be wearing or taking off.

1:11.5

The night will be wild and untamed.

1:15.1

Expect heavy, lashing rain that'll soak you to the skin.

1:21.2

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1:23.5

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