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The Bulwark Podcast

S2 Ep1058: Matt Yglesias: Elon's Smash and Grab

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2025

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

Trump's and Musk's very public breakup may be amusing, but don't lose sight of the fact that DOGE was a failure—despite what the manosphere says. Elon's ego trip found no fraud and cut only a minor amount of spending. But those cuts are meaningfully hurting the global poor as well as scientific research at home. And now, Republicans are trying the same kind of DOGE sleight of hand on their spending bill, largely under the radar. Meanwhile, Megan McCain is getting in on the snake-oil gravy train, and the Epstein conspiracists may have it backwards. Plus, a deep dive into how Dems can win red states, fight the culture wars, and show how they're looking out for the little guy. 

Matt Yglesias joins Tim Miller.

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0:44.4

I'm your host, Tim Miller.

0:45.7

Just one more reminder.

0:46.7

We're doing the rally tomorrow Friday, June 6th at 5 o'clock in front of the Supreme Court in support of the legal team that is fighting

0:57.4

for Andre Hernandez-Ramero, as well as the other Venezuelans that have been disappeared,

1:03.0

Disicoat. My guest today might think I'm raising the salience of that incorrectly, but I disagree

1:08.2

with him, and we can hash that out over the course of the podcast.

1:16.4

So come hang out with us at 5 o'clock. We have a fundraiser at 8 o'clock in a live show.

1:19.4

I think there are like three tickets left for it. So you better get it if you want to come.

1:28.2

On to the guest. He writes Slow Boring on Substack. He co-host the Politics with an X at the end podcast with Brian Boitler. He's a columnist for Bloomberg.

1:29.9

It's Matt Iglesias.

1:30.4

What's up, man?

1:31.0

Hello.

1:32.0

What's going on?

1:32.8

Good to see you.

1:37.5

Yesterday you attended the Welcome Fest, a forum for Centres Dems, which I was not invited to participate in or moderate, despite my status as the podcast home of this faction.

1:42.6

So I don't know if I've gone to Woke for Welcome Fest or what happened there.

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