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Hello, this is a collect call from...

An offender at Caulfield Unit.

This call is being recorded and is subject to monitoring.

Hello, everybody and welcome back to Truth and Justice.

I'm your host Bob Ruff and I believe that today we are breaking completely new ground and podcasting.

What you're about to hear is a nearly one hour long interview with Ed Ains in Inmate at the Caulfield Unit Prison in Texas.

Rather than me try to break down Ed's case, in this interview Ed walks you through the nature of the crime,

how he was arrested and what's happened to him since that incident.

The prison phone system only allows inmates to speak on the phone for 20 minutes at a time.

So there'll be a couple of interruptions and we'll drop the ads in during one of those interruptions.

But without further ado, I want to introduce you to Edward Hates.

Hello, Mr. Russ.

Yeah, Ed, how you doing?

I'm doing okay. How are you doing?

All right, how was the weekend?

I know.

I think it was okay.

But as good as it can be, I guess.

I was here.

Right. So do you have that?

I know last week when we were talking you said it,

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