Everybody, what is going on?

You know what time it is.

You're listening to join the Journey podcast with your host, Emma, daughter.

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I am in the podcast studio with today's Devo writer, Mr. Patrick Seeger.

Thanks for having me.

Glad you're here.

Patrick, I would love to know a little bit before we get to Judge's two and three.

A little bit about how you came to know the Lord.

Fast forward.

What's going on in your life today?

Yeah, so I actually grew up in the Northeast in a Catholic church.

So my religion, my faith growing up, was marked by like checklist items.

And, man, I'm going to go to church every Sunday, and I'm going to go to Sunday school, and I'm going to do confirmation.

I'm going to hit my Holy Communion, and it was just marked by routine and doing the same thing over and over again.

And so as I got older, as I got in high school, a little bit more independence and freedom, I kind of put my faith in my back pocket.

You know, I still called myself a Christian, but no part of my life was impacted by my faith.

And this part of my life was really marked by things going well. You know, I kind of had a plan

for my life. I knew what I wanted to do from the time I was 13 years old and really. What was that?

Wanted to be a basketball coach, coach in college. So my life was really gearing towards that basketball, I've been a big part of my life my whole life.

And things were going really well.

But at the same time, you know, in high school and really the start of college felt so much brokenness and so much longing for something more, like understanding that everything's going

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