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🗓️ 4 September 2025
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As new victims emerge and trial strategies clash, Dr. Phil explores the lasting trauma, evolving M.O., and dark psychology behind the Gilgo Beach murders.
The bodies were just the beginning. In Part 3 of the Gilgo Beach investigation, Dr. Phil dives deeper into the mind of the alleged killer and the ripples of destruction still unfolding.
A decades-old cold case. Graphic crime scene notes. A daughter’s dark art. A mother murdered by her own child. This isn’t fiction it’s what’s surfaced since Rex Heuermann’s arrest.
Dr. Phil unpacks the psychological rituals of serial killers, from their obsession with control to the twisted fantasy rehearsals that fuel their crimes. Why do their methods evolve? How do they evade capture for decades? And what scars are left behind for the families—both of the victims and the accused?
This episode also revisits Shannan Gilbert, the woman whose 911 call started it all, and the tragic murder of her mother, Mary, who fought tirelessly for justice before becoming a victim herself.
Justice is closing in. But the damage is far from over.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back to Mystery and Murder, analysis by Dr. Phil. |
| 0:11.8 | The podcast where we don't just report the headlines, we rip the mask off the monster. |
| 0:18.8 | This is where we dive into the darkest corners of the human psyche, |
| 0:23.6 | unraveling the twisted motives, hidden secrets, and haunting truths that most people are too |
| 0:29.6 | afraid to face. |
| 0:32.6 | What drives a seemingly normal person to the edge and beyond? |
| 0:38.3 | I say normal with quotes because what really is normal, all behavior is on a continuum. |
| 0:46.3 | It ranges all the way from the dark and ugly to the really positive, giving, angelic behavior that we hope for. |
| 0:59.0 | And what happens when the double life that some of these monsters have built |
| 1:05.0 | begins to crack wide open? |
| 1:08.0 | You know, I think sometimes about this evil that drives these people, and it's always |
| 1:16.1 | trying to bubble up. In your younger years, maybe been in a swimming pool, and remember these |
| 1:22.1 | multicolored beach balls that we played with. And one of the fun things we would try to do is hold them under water. |
| 1:30.3 | And they were always trying to pop up. |
| 1:32.3 | We would try to hold them under, and they'd pop up left, pop up right. |
| 1:37.3 | And we had exhaust ourselves trying to hold that beach ball under the water in the pool. But it was always fighting to break surface and pop up. |
| 1:50.4 | That's how I think about these monsters that are living double lives, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. |
| 1:56.1 | Hyde existences. |
| 1:57.3 | They have this drive within them. |
| 1:59.7 | They can hold it in check. They can push it down. |
| 2:02.6 | They can satiate it by acting on it from time to time, |
| 2:06.6 | but it's always trying to pop up. |
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