S18 Ep5: Follow-Up S18: E5
Truth & Justice with Bob Ruff
Bob Ruff
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🗓️ 20 February 2026
⏱️ 68 minutes
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Bob and Janet are joined by attorney Michael Ausbrook to discuss the Delphi case.
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| 0:00.0 | From NBII Studios, this is Truth and Justice, a crowdsourced investigation in real time. I'm Bob Ruff. |
| 0:42.3 | Ahoy, friends. You are listening to the Friday follow-up for Season 18, episode five, in which we welcome back our friend of the show, Michael Osbrook, to talk more about the status |
| 0:47.8 | of Richard Allen and Delphi Post-Conviction activities. Really dense, great episode, chock full of information. I had to take notes |
| 0:58.1 | as I was listening. I listened to the episode twice. There was just so much information packed |
| 1:02.8 | in there. And a great conversation. Definitely have some questions from our wonderful audience. |
| 1:08.0 | And Michael, welcome in. We're songs, Zach. So we are very happy, |
| 1:12.6 | extra happy to have you. And he's very sad to miss you. Well, I am absolutely thrilled to be here. |
| 1:18.4 | As I said on Twitter today, it's always a privilege to be able to talk about anything and you. |
| 1:24.6 | And I'm really sorry, thanks. |
| 1:26.8 | I'm sorry. I didn't go on Twitter today. I could be flattered. All right. I know that we've got several questions. We've got, I know Janet, you have a ton of thoughts. And something tells me we're probably going to have some good questions that come through the chat as well, because I know we have a lot of activity in there already. Yep, |
| 1:44.7 | I already have, I've already got one flagged in there for us to bring up later if we have time. |
| 1:49.2 | Do you want to start somebody, so I put up this tweet and there was one answer to it. I said, |
| 1:54.6 | you know, maybe put in some questions. I got one and it's a really general question, but it's a |
| 1:59.1 | really good one to which I have only a general |
| 2:02.1 | answer. Let's hear it. And the question was, what can regular people out there best do to get |
| 2:11.0 | justice for Libby, Abby, and Rick? Okay. And my answer is, I don't have a good answer. |
| 2:21.5 | Those are two, Justice for Libby and Abby are not necessarily connected with justice for Rick. |
| 2:28.7 | And I've said this a few places. |
| 2:31.0 | There are two ways to get justice for Rick. |
| 2:33.3 | One is to solve the case. That's justice for |
| 2:35.7 | Libby and Abby. Although, I've got to say, after a conviction, absent just overwhelming evidence |
| 2:43.6 | of who actually did this, it's going to be really hard to convict somebody else. |
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