S17 Ep24: Follow-Up S17: E24
Truth & Justice with Bob Ruff
Bob Ruff
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🗓️ 16 January 2026
⏱️ 50 minutes
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Bob and Janet talk about Bob's interview with Michael Ausbrook about the process of post-conviction relief and answer listener questions.
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| 0:00.0 | From NBII Studios, this is Truth and Justice, a crowdsourced investigation in real time. |
| 0:19.4 | I'm Bob Ruff. |
| 0:44.8 | Ahoy, friends. You are listening to the Friday follow-up for Season 17, episode 24, with attorney Michael Osbrook. |
| 0:51.1 | Michael came on the show to talk with Bob, not just about the Chris Bynum case, but about process in general. They touched on conviction integrity units and much more. We have some |
| 0:56.1 | feedback and questions from listeners. Unfortunately, we are Sans-Zac today, but we are going to |
| 1:02.4 | jump in and talk about this episode. First, do we have any housekeeping? |
| 1:07.4 | Other than just kind of touching base with where we're at, as I told you guys last week, |
| 1:12.1 | my plan was to hit pause on the, on season 17 and move on to season 18. |
| 1:18.2 | I told you I was putting together an episode about, you know, learning where you're at |
| 1:21.6 | as far as if you're in custody, where your custodial situation is and what your rights are |
| 1:27.1 | and how you should interact |
| 1:28.2 | with officers and situations like that still doing that episode we're actually going to do it this |
| 1:31.8 | week and truthfully timely time wise based on some feedback i've had i'll talk a little bit about |
| 1:37.2 | the end it's actually probably better this week but whenever so when i brought mike on |
| 1:40.8 | michael on really the intention was just to talk about process and then we just got into the Bynum discussion. |
| 1:47.2 | So why it was still part of season 17. But so as of now, and I did, I did speak with Chris's, one of Chris's attorneys. We do have things in the work. It's a process for us to line up with the prison and with the attorneys to set up the call, but we are going to |
| 2:01.2 | have an interview with Chris coming up so that, so we will bounce back then. In the meantime, |
| 2:06.2 | we're just going to plug along with season 18, where we're just going to, you know, we're going to try |
| 2:09.9 | to educate and inform and help, you know, shine a light on as many areas of the criminal justice |
| 2:16.4 | system as we can along the way. |
| 2:18.0 | So that's what will be coming up this Sunday. And in this episode shouldn't be, you know, Michael is, |
| 2:23.3 | you can tell not only is he an extremely talented attorney, but you could also tell he's a professor |
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