This is CBSI on the world. I'm John Batchel. Hotel Mars. David Livingston here, Dr. Space himself of the

space show. Highly recommended. Very, very engaging panel. You don't have to know everything,

but it helps in order to listen in. And we're joined by somebody who does know everything about

rocketry right now. Eric Berger, the senior space reporter for Ars Technica,

again, a fun publication if you want to read about the theft at the Louvre,

and the launch of Blue Origins New Glen Rocket,

which is our subject for this hotel, Mars,

because finally, there are two billionaires who are eager to compete with each other and with

NASA and with all the other space programs and get to the moon or Mars. I'm never quite sure.

That's why we need Eric's help. Eric, a very good evening to you. Eric is the author of two books

about the origins of SpaceX. The first book, Lift Off, the second book, Reentry.

And reentry is part of the story of Blue Origin,

because they not only successfully put a mission on its way to Mars with their new

glen, but they landed the booster on a raft, well, a barge in the ocean. All at once is much to explore.

Erica, a very good evening to you. Thank you for joining. There was a moment I spent in 24 Thinking Blue

Origin is moving at a pace of a turtle. It'll never get there. And now it's arrived with its second launch ever,

I believe, of New Glenn. What did you take away from that launch? Were you surprised? Were you

pleased? Did it satisfy your very careful measure of private space? Good evening to you, Eric.

Well, good evening. I was absolutely

floored by the launch. Not only was the first stage successful and the second stage, you know,

sent the mission off to Mars. The performance of the upper stage was actually outstanding of the

new Glen Rocket, but then it landed. And frankly, you know, I had reported before the launch that

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