This is Hotel Mars episode, and I'm John Batchel with my colleagues, David Livingston,

and of the space show, and Eric Berger of Ars Technica.

And we turn now to something that is surprising because it was a disappointment to see

Jared Isaacman, a very brave man, accomplished in flying two space missions, one

including a walk by himself. He's a jet pilot. He's a billionaire, and he's extremely eager to lead NASA.

That was disappointed when the president withdrew his nomination right before the Senate hearings,

I believe. And then again, it was surprising when the president

re-ignited the nomination, and there is to be

the Senate hearings for approval.

Eric, your measure, Jared Isaacman, he's worked with

Musk, of course, he's flown two of his capsules.

His addition to this trio, does it help things? What do we know about Isaacman and

Bezos? And can the three work together? So full disclosure, I'm pretty biased. I know Jared

quite well, have talked to him a lot over the last half decade. And I think he has the potential

to be an exceptional leader for NASA. He really understands the problems facing the Artemis program in NASA and is going to do, I think, everything in his power to try to address them in a meaningful way.

The problem is, of course, as you alluded to, is that we're now almost a full year into President Trump's first or second term.

And so he's going to have less time than a nominee normally would have.

But he will look to make his mark.

And I think what I think is most attractive about Isaac Min is that he's not going to be snowed under, I think, by promises and protestations from the traditional space

industry about things. And so he will bring a mentality to get things done. And if the old way

of doing things isn't working, he will look for new ways to accomplish them. David, you have a

question. Any timeline for his Senate confirmation? Is there any risk to his approval? There's always

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