This is Karen Hunter and welcome to the hub. So I did an interview with Devon Franklin, you know, Megan Good's husband.

Nah, he's so much more than that. But he did a book called The Truth About Men and

in this book he breaks down some things that women need to know.

And literally that's a subtitle, what men and women need to know.

The book is powerful. He was amazing.

And he really got me thinking about masculinity,

wearing the error of me too and all of this,

I'm putting up air quote toxic masculinity.

And he makes it really simple.

To be a man is not really in between your legs.

It is something so much more powerful.

And Devon Franklin, I think, lays it out in such a methodical way, but also very spiritually.

I think a lot of people look at him as somebody

that may be soft or something because he decided

to refrain from sex before he married his wife, which I think is so powerful.

And I think it's time for us to start to reimagine our relationships and how we treat one

another and what it means to be in loving healthy relationships. And this book was powerful but his conversation

about men and how men should behave and how women should behave around men and

how we should behave together. Just an amazing conversation.

I hope you enjoy, let me know what you think on Twitter

at Karen Hunter.

Coming up next, my interview with Devon Franklin.

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