This is Karen Hunter and welcome to the show as well. I'm going to engage her because she can't she's an

authoress. She knows how to write and she's writing about things that are near and dear to my

heart. Her book is called Wandering in Strange Lands, a daughter of the Great Migration

reclaims her roots. Let me welcome senior editor at Zara, the one only Morgan

Jerkins. Welcome.

Hi, how are you? I'm great. How are you? Good, thank you for having me. Thanks for coming through. Well, I was really intrigued because my grandfather, Buck, an amazing human being, was born and raised in Guiche Guller, Somerville, South Carolina.

And so I spent, when I went to Augusta to visit my grandmother because they divorced I would go right over the border into Somerville to visit my granddaddy and his new wife well she ended up being married like 40 years Naomi and I would spend a portion of my summers in Somerville so

that Guiche Gullin I couldn't understand a thing he was saying most of the time but

so I was intrigued by this book so tell me tell me your story a little bit before we get to

it though Morgan we're having this debate right now about the cardi bee making

these down you you look like you're a young person you look very young at

least you probably

moisturize very well and yes you probably do and I'm

struggling right now with that image of us just everything just is wet and gushy and that's it.

I'm just I'm struggling.

I don't like the word gushy.

I just don't.

I don't even read this point. and I'll be honest with you I have not seen the video

in this entirety yet because I am on the internet a lot and I wanted to wait until the hype

settle down so I can really gauge if I like it or not.

But I mean, I'm fascinated with just some backlash against these grown women talking about

that genitalia as if Little Kim wasn't doing that hardcore as if I see

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