This is Karen Hunter and welcome to the hub. Welcome back another class in class with Carr, Dr. Great Carr. All right,

Kreme a wheat out of here. And Jemima, done.

Quaker Oats, 130 years.

We have been eating Edgemama with the syrup, the pancakes,

with the black lady on.

They changed her look to make her not look like an enslaved person.

And she looked like a modern woman, a perm now she's gone and I'm like good good

but we didn't have a problem with Nancy Green that's her name I didn't even know that was

her name until recently. It was Aunt Jemma.

So Dr. Gray-Kard, tell me why either we should be celebrating just like the statues,

her coming down and we're

and all the other places that they're removing

black symbols of slavery, Lando Lakes, you know,

I mean, it's a lot.

Tell me why we should either celebrate an honor,

her grandson or a great nephew is mad

because it's like she, you know, she fought hard

to, you know, live her life, making pancakes for people and serving white folks all right tell me why I'm wrong for

no no I don't it this this is almost a running theme of our Saturdays, a running theme of our class,

because I know sometimes we do more than one a week, but the idea is that, you know, history is complicated.

History is lived by real human beings and I could get the family

being angry in fact when you know earlier when we were going back and forth when the idea came to mind when you said,

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