This is Karen Hunter and welcome to the hub.

Hello everyone. We are here episode 121. I put just tune in because I don't know what we're really talking about because you want a journey, but we you and I and good morning to you Dr. Car I love you. Good morning good morning love you good morning and

Professor Hunter how are you? I am I you know I'm in a in a very interesting place right now and I must say you know I'm happy you know when you are in the in the me in the midst of developing many different things at once and then it's all kind of your life's work is kind of just lining up everything you've ever done, you know, it's coming together so I agree I agree it could only happen

because of the community that I'm in and the people that I'm now aligned with where, you know, even the decisions I make in terms of like what projects I take,

I'm always thinking through this Afrikana framework and I wouldn't have had that language unless we had this space.

So I just want to again, I will tell you every single waking moment

how great for I am for your wisdom. So that's it. Yeah. I want to thank you because we wouldn't be here if it weren't for you. And I want to thank you not just for me, but for every community, everyone that I've been in conversation with and all of those people who have crafted me that that conceptual framework as we talk about all the time is the result of many, many years of debate and discussion from

elders, from reading and studying, but also from young people that was balanced.

I was having that conversation midweek with the handful of faculty who have been asked by

administration to take over the freshman seminar in the College of Washington Sciences at Howard.

And, you know, I have an old soldier's mentality.

The, you don't quit your post till relieved. I hadn't anticipated being relieved so brusquely, and I suspect that, in fact, I know it was political, and I embraced that of course because I understand that our historically black colleges have never,

the fight for the Black University, which began really with the inception of our HBCUs and really you hit a wide shared moment in the 60s has never stopped.

And it's an ideological debate, it's a political debate,

but as I suspected, when they ran into some, let's just call it charitably difficulties trying to grasp the magnitude of what they have been tasked with doing, they asked if I would, you know, because we

colleagues, let's talk. I said of course and I said but the first thing I

want to before I ask you what you all have, I want to assert that when you see me, you don't see me as an individual, you see us.

And that framework was developed over, I think 15, I think I was responsible for that, and then co-responsible for 15 years, 14 to 15 years, and the people who asked me to do it,

the dean who is now an ancestor, James Donaldson, a towering figure, educator, literally and physically big dude, who, you know, just a brilliant brother came out of the days of segregation. And that generation is just about gone, either their ancestors or their, you know, advanced

elders.

I said, you know, that momentum was driven for what we crafted after many years of dialogue,

many years of trial and error, many years of contemplation,

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