Ryan Holiday On the Pursuit of Virtue

The Rich Roll Podcast

Rich Roll

Education, Society & Culture, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness

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🗓️ 25 October 2021

⏱️ 128 minutes

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Summary

This cultural moment bears witness to a growing distrust of institutions unprecedented in our lifetime. With it comes an unraveling of healthy communication. Tearing others down has taken priority over rising ourselves up. And binary thinking, divisiveness, and fear-based behavior have supplanted sense-making, appreciation for nuance, and mutual respect. For Ryan Holiday, the antidote is the pursuit of virtue—specifically, the virtue upon which all other virtues sit, courage: the ability to rise above fear and to do what’s right. Returning for his 4th appearance on the podcast, Ryan is one of the world’s bestselling living philosophers globally lauded for adapting Stoicism to the mainstream. His books—including The Obstacle Is The Way, Ego Is the Enemy, The Daily Stoic, and Stillness Is the Key—have sold over 4 million copies and spent over 300 weeks on the bestseller lists. Ryan’s expertise in mining the modern-day practicalities of ancient philosophy to live more optimally is coveted by some of the world’s most successful CEOs, political leaders, world-class athletes, and NFL coaches, and he’s here today to help us make sense of this current moment through the lens of his latest book, Courage Is Calling. This is a conversation about the challenge of sense-making amidst our national divide. It’s about the application of time-tested wisdom, the nature of virtue and why doing the right thing is always the right thing. We cover it all: the perils of individualism, responsibility as a counter-balance to liberty, fear, courage, partisanship, tribalism, and why virtue is both a craft and an action verb. To read more click here. You can also watch listen to our exchange on YouTube. And as always, the podcast streams wild and free on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. I relish my conversations with Ryan—he is a compelling thinker about things that matter, and this one is chock a block with practical wisdom, things we can learn from philosophy and history to make sense of today, and most importantly, to live and be better humans and citizens. Peace + Plants, Rich

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0:00.0	We think about courage.
0:03.0	It's like we all know what it is.
0:05.0	We all admire it.
0:06.5	We all know what it can do.
0:09.1	And yet it's relatively rare.
0:11.0	Like it's one of those weird things where it's like we're all in agreement.
0:13.5	The courage is important.
0:15.3	And then we're all sort of looking around being like why aren't people more courageous?
0:20.3	We seem to ask ourselves that question less.
0:23.2	We all have strong opinions about the lack of courage of our elected officials or public
0:28.8	figures or whatever.
0:31.0	But we're very rarely holding ourselves to the standard that we're asking them.
0:38.2	The Rich Roll Podcast.
0:51.0	I think it's fair to say that we live in a pretty confusing time.
0:54.8	A time of growing institutional distrust, a time of erosion with respect to healthy communication,
1:03.8	a culture in which taking others down has become more important than rising ourselves up.
1:10.7	And a moment in which sense-making, appreciation for nuance and mutual respect have been
1:18.8	supplanted by binary thinking, divisiveness, and perhaps most of all and most pernicious
1:26.7	fear-based behavior.
1:29.0	For today's guest, Ryan Holiday, returning for his fourth appearance on the podcast, the
1:35.4	antidote can be found through the pursuit of virtue.
1:39.4	And the virtue upon which all other virtues sit is courage.
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