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#Russia: Prigozhin exits and who gains? Anatol Lieven, Quincy Institute

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🗓️ 25 August 2023

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#Russia: Prigozhin exits and who gains? Anatol Lieven, Quincy Institute
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/08/24/yevgeny-prigozhin-plane-crash-caused-bomb-say-us-officials/

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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World with John Bacheler. Here's John Bacheler.

0:12.4

The death of a public figure, Yevgeny Pregozion is dead, says Moscow. I go to London for

0:20.4

competing headlines. The jet crash victims who died alongside Pregozion, including his

0:26.7

deputies, his senior deputies of the Wagner Group, and then Russia blames Ukraine for

0:33.6

plane crash that killed Wagner chiefs, and then Pregozion killed in a plane crash, says

0:39.1

Russia as allies point finger at Putin. That's enough to understand that the day after

0:45.0

an event that is at this point confirmed but not confirmed confirmed confirmed. There

0:51.2

is dispute in London as to who benefits, who did this, who brought down a private aircraft

0:57.8

between Moscow and Petersburg in such a spectacular fashion that we have video taken as the plane

1:05.3

descended into a field and was smashed into many pieces. I welcome Anatol Leven of the

1:12.0

Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft, who's guided me through this intricate situation

1:18.6

of Ukraine war, and now we have what appears to be an accident, a murder, an assassination,

1:25.4

or a dispute over who benefits. Anatol, a very good evening to you. Thank you for this.

1:32.1

When we all learn at the moment that Pregozion's plane had gone down, what were your first

1:37.0

thoughts about who was responsible, or do you hold back after all these years of reporting

1:42.1

mysteries? Good evening to you. Hello, John. Well, when I learned that it had come down

1:49.1

between Moscow and Petersburg, I immediately thought this is an assassination, or did

1:56.2

either by Putin himself, or less probably by Pregozion's bitter enemies in the Russian

2:03.9

defense ministry, it's stretching credibility to believe that this was an accident at this

2:10.8

particular moment, and it doesn't seem at all likely that Ukraine would be able to identify

2:19.8

and bring down a private plane that deep within Russia, unless, of course, somebody in Russia

2:28.4

would tip Ukraine off about it, which I suppose is just remotely conceivable, but if so, that

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