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This is CBSI on the world. I'm John Bachelor. Hotel Mars. Episode N. David Livingston,

Dr. Space of the space show joins me as my colleague and co-pilot. And we're very pleased

to bring on a good friend of ours for many years.

Anatolese Act, who keeps the Russian space web, highly recommend following the number one

space-faring country and operation in history.

Ross Cosmos, many changes, a lot of looking to the future. Anatatoly is here to introduce us to the post-I-S-S-Rosmos.

That means that the International Space Station, we've depended on all these years for joint activity of Russia and the United States, is going to deorbited sometime in these next years.

The date, it moves around. But the deorbiting, and SpaceX has the contract to do that,

means that new space stations will be launched. There are five or four or five commercial

proposals in the U.S.

And the U.S. also has opportunity to build its own if it wants to. But

Russia is building one, a new one, or plans to build a new one, on drawing up plans to

build a new one. China is building a new one of all kinds in low Earth orbit,

but there are going to be more to come. We believe that all the Lagrange points will be occupied

over the next decades. We believe the moon will be occupied, perhaps moon orbit as well.

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