If they're laughing, it's fine, if they're not, it ain't.

This is the Russell Howard we have never seen before.

When you're low, it leaves you mentally fragile,

but then that makes you work hard and go again,

because you know the excitement you get from making them laugh.

It's an unhealthy treadmill, but at the end of that treadmill there is this incredible cherry.

That's what happiness is. Figure out a healthier way of being the best

you without it being so draining to realize what you have. There will always be sort of shimmering lights of hope in the misery, but sometimes somebody has to help you find them.

When he died, it was just this sledgehammer to your heart where you just go, Jesus, one of the, one of the, one of the

good souls isn't here anymore. more.

Russell Howard. I've watched Russell Howard on TV for years and years and of all the podcasts I've done Russell and this conversation was the most stark difference

between the person I've seen on TV and the person I had a

conversation with today. I think your mind is going to be blown. He's got a new Netflix show

coming out called Lubricant and the reason it's called

lubricant is because he believes comedy and laughter is the lubricant that

allows us to deal with the pain of life and we talk about the pain of his life we talk about everything and in this

conversation there's more tears. Recently I did an episode on this

podcast with Jimmy Carr and the resounding feedback we got was we've never seen that Jimmy Car before.

I have a suspicion, in fact I know that people are going to say the same about this conversation.

This is the Russell Howard we have never seen before and it's an incredibly

inspiring valuable Russell Howard it's the side as a Russell Howard fan that I wish I'd seen more of. I have a feeling you're going to be really surprised.

So without further ado, I'm Stephen Bartlett and this is the diary of a CEO. I hope nobody's listening but if you are then

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