Hey everybody, Glenn Thrush with Politico's off message podcast here in New York, the day after the big New York primary, Donald Trump romped 60% of the vote.

And Hillary Clinton, I think,

finally put Bernie Sanders away, won by 16 points and really disproved Sanders' entire theory of the election, which is that she couldn't win. What was his expression outside the deep

south? Well, I think she pretty much proved that and sanders has gone back uh as of

this taping to burlington vermont to reassess his campaign well the the guest today uh i have i am very

excited about wanted to talk with him for quite a while even though he is banned on several prominent

networks including cnn for saying stuff he should

not have said. Roger Stone is a longtime advisor to Donald Trump. He has a long and colorful career

in Republican politics starting off with working on the Goldwater campaign. He worked for Richard Nixon

and has tattooed Richard Nixon on

his back infamously. And he's known sort of as a master of the dark arts, a guy who likes

to get in people's heads. A lot of folks in the Clinton camp are pretty apprehensive about

having to face off against Stone if they deal with Trump in the general election.

But I got to tell you, I think the guy is a charmer.

And the thing that I was kind of left with was how nice a guy he is.

I'm going to get a lot of nasty emails on that one, but I just got to call it as I see it.

Hanging out with him was a lot of fun.

Called him on some of the things that he's said and done, had an interesting response.

A couple of things I thought were fascinating as you listen to this, one of which was Stone talking in very subtle nuanced terms about how to manage the most unmanageable candidate in history, Donald Trump,

how you get him to do a course adjustment.

And Stone, by all reports, has played a critical role in getting Trump to professionalize

his operation, includes marginalizing the campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, who Stone kind of likens to a concert

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