Roger Carstens: Do hostage deals risk making problems worse?
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4.3 • 537 Ratings
🗓️ 7 March 2025
⏱️ 23 minutes
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Stephen Sackur speaks to Roger Carstens, former US Presidential Envoy for Hostage Affairs. Did the deals he strike from Russia to Iran risk making the problem worse?
(Photo: Roger Carstens, former US Presidential Envoy for Hostage Affairs appears via video on Hardtalk)
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Hard Talk from the BBC World Service with me, Stephen Sacker. |
| 0:04.6 | My guest in this interview recorded on the 5th of March has just left a job which presented |
| 0:10.2 | him with potentially life-changing dilemmas on a daily basis. |
| 0:15.7 | For almost five years, Roger Carstens, a former elite soldier and State Department official, was America's |
| 0:22.7 | special presidential envoy for hostage affairs. His task was to engineer the release of U.S. |
| 0:29.0 | citizens held hostage or wrongfully imprisoned in hostile territory. He was appointed by Donald |
| 0:35.3 | Trump in his first term, and unusually he was kept on by |
| 0:39.2 | Joe Biden throughout his presidency. His tenure came to an end with Trump's return to the White House |
| 0:45.2 | in January. By then, he had secured the release of more than 50 Americans from a host of hostile |
| 0:51.3 | countries, including Venezuela, Iran, and most notably Russia. |
| 0:56.3 | From his first day in the job to his last, much of Carston's focus was on the families of those |
| 1:02.1 | in captivity. He reached out to them, communicated constantly with them, and tried to show them that |
| 1:07.6 | America was prioritizing the freedom of their loved ones. |
| 1:11.6 | But of course, every release came with a price. |
| 1:14.7 | And some of the deals Carston's engineered, particularly with Russia and Iran, prompted critics |
| 1:19.9 | to argue America risked being seen as rewarding the hostage takers in a way that would |
| 1:25.6 | encourage more of the same. |
| 1:28.0 | Carston's job is now done, but the debate goes on. |
| 1:31.4 | What is the liberty of one captive individual worth? |
| 1:35.6 | Roger Carstons joins me now on the line from Washington. |
| 1:39.2 | Welcome to Hard Talk. |
| 1:40.8 | Thanks, Stephen. Appreciate it. |
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