Hello, welcome to Run Pod, where runners unite.

All runners, experienced ones, slow ones, fast ones, new ones, runners with unusual running style,

and also runners who win races, sprinters, gold medalists, Olympians.

Like today's guest, I'm Jenny Faulkner and I am delighted to be joined today by

Roger Black. Welcome to Run Pod. Hi Jenny. Pleasure. So good to have you on. Thank you very much for

coming and chatting all things running because you know you do know a bit about this. Well yes. Yeah I guess so. I guess so.

I'm not I'm not the runner I used to be. So I'm sure for most of your listeners, I'm probably not up to their standard, actually, but I'm still a runner.

I run my wife and I, Jules, it's part of our daily routine.

We run most days and have a routine of running.

And I run for pleasure now, not for performance, and it's a much more enjoyable.

See, well, that's good that you still get enjoyment out of it.

Does it make you realise that when you were training, it was such a different experience altogether?

Completely. It was completely different because it was about, you know, you were running to win Olympic medals.

It was, you were running with a very clear goal and a very clear purpose.

You were putting your body to the limits and doing things that your body shouldn't have to do.

But it was all about that, that singular goal of, of winning races and ultimately,

hopefully one day standing on the Olympic roster which I managed to do

whereas now you know I'm 54 I've I've had a heart condition on my life and I'm much more wary of

that so for me it's about moving I'm I'm my life is about for my health is to keep moving and a big

part of that is is is a daily part of that is a daily jog.

And it is a daily jog in nature.

And then sometimes if I want to do more, I'll go on a treadmill or whatever.

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