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The John Batchelor Show

ROBOTS AND AI ON THE FACTORY FLOOR. ALAN TONELSON, GORDON CHANG. CONTINUED.

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

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4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 22 July 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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ROBOTS AND AI ON THE FACTORY FLOOR. ALAN TONELSON, GORDON CHANG.

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0:00.0

This is CBSI on the world.

0:05.5

I'm John Batchel with my colleague and co-host, Gordon Chang at Gordon G. Chang.

0:10.1

And we have Alan Tonelson, our guide on manufacturing and trade these many years.

0:16.4

We're turning from trade to manufacturing.

0:19.8

Alan, there was a lengthy feature in the Wall Street

0:22.5

Journal recently with video of what it's called a dark factory. Now, it sounds like the dark

0:28.9

web, you know, something sinister. No, no, it's a factory where the lights are not on. Why?

0:34.5

Because it's either heavily or dominantly robotic. And the Chinese have built some of these,

0:40.9

perhaps it's a Potemkin manufacturing facility, perhaps it's commonplace, and show them off to the

0:46.7

Wall Street Journal, meaning that the robots and AI have taken the place of manpower. For some time,

0:57.3

there's been a puzzle about manufacturing jobs in America, not accelerating despite the efforts of the administration to endorse the reshoring

1:05.4

of manufacturing facilities in the U.S. I learned from an article in the Financial Times, however, that the robots

1:13.9

and the engineers and the AI are commonplace now in some of the facilities in the U.S.

1:20.7

Where manufacturing is associated with heavy manpower. They mentioned the Finkintieri

1:26.6

building of U.S. Navy warships in Wisconsin, where instead of thousands

1:33.5

bending metal, there was a handful of engineers all wired in and supervising robots to bend metal

1:40.7

and build a ship not in months or years, but in days and weeks, at least the part of

1:46.2

the ship that requires steel.

1:48.4

This is all a revelation to me.

1:50.9

It also could explain some of the sideways move of manufacturing, not only in the U.S., but

1:57.5

in our little buddy to the south, that would be Mexico, and our little buddy

2:02.9

to the north, that would be Canada.

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