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TALKING POLITICS

Robert Harris and V2

TALKING POLITICS

Catherine Carr

News, News & Politics

4.72.5K Ratings

🗓️ 20 September 2020

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

A Sunday extra with the novelist Robert Harris to talk about the V2 campaign of terror against London during WWII and the parallels with today. Plus we discuss the big questions of counterfactual history - could Hitler really have won the war? - and we ask whether Boris Johnson is anything like his political heroes, Cicero and Churchill.

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0:00.0

Hello my name is David Ronsman and this is Talking Politics. Our Sunday supplement extra

0:13.6

this week is with the novelist Robert Harris, I'm talking to him about the V2 weapons

0:19.3

and the end of the Second World War. Talking Politics is brought to you in partnership

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0:59.9

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1:04.8

Robert, in the seemingly endless amount of stuff that keeps being written about the Second

1:18.3

World War, I noticed there are two sort of nagging obsessions that people keep coming

1:23.0

back to. One, we might come back to this at the end, is the counterfactuals, the contingencies

1:28.8

of 1940, the way in which the start of the war, particularly those five days in May,

1:33.4

the whole 20th century history could have been different. The other, and it really connects

1:37.8

to your thrilling new book, is why do the Germans keep fighting? There's a nagging obsession

1:44.5

with 1944 and 1945 and the way that that war machine just kept going past the point where

1:50.6

it made any sense and the destruction just becomes so mindless and relentless. This book

1:57.0

about the V2, it taps into that. Lots of other things going on too. It's just a very exciting

2:02.0

thriller, but these rockets, what were they for? I mean, and it depends who we're talking

2:08.9

about, the people who built them, the people, the regime that used them. What do you think

2:13.9

they were for in the minds of the people who fired them? Well, in the minds of the engineers

2:21.2

who built them, there's no doubt that originally they were motivated by a desire to explore space,

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