Hey this is Brian so at a certain point in this interview with Richard Marks which is by the way an honest and deep

conversation Richard hold nothing back,

awesome.

But there's a section in it where name is bleeped,

because he tells a story,

and I think it's about somebody I know.

Turns out it's not about that person I checked

I found out who it is the guy with the hobby stamp which you'll hear about was

really an amazing guy named Carter who was a record business executive.

And he was really close friends with one of my very best friends

and I really liked Carter.

And I think my explanation stands for Carter as much as it would

have for the person I thought it was.

So when you get to that part that's what's going on and enjoy the podcast.

Hey, this is the moment.

I'm Brian Koppelman.

Thanks for listening.

I'm super excited about this.

In a weird way, my guest today, who is the great Richard Marks one of the most accomplished songwriters walking around and it's weird Richard because you were a big pop star. I think people don't most people don't know how successful you

are as a songwriter and what a songwriter you are. Right I mean most people don't

read the credits you know? Yeah I have since I was a little kid right

obviously right but it's an odd thing when you I have since I was a little kid obviously.

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