Hello everybody. Welcome to an amazing collaboration between me, Kara Borel, and the one and only Radio Free Mormon.

Hi, Tara. How are you doing? I'm so good. This is our first probably real collab, just you and me.

It is here on a Saturday morning while all the world's asleep.

I rolled out of bed, chipper and excited to take on this speech from Steve Densley.

So you are a lawyer by trade, right?

So I thought it'd be fun, you know, trade profession.

You probably went to school.

I don't know.

I didn't. So I thought it'd be fun to have

like attorney against attorney. Right. Steve Densley. Now you found out about this talk. This talk was

given by Steve Densley, who's a big wig with fair and interpreter and all these apologetic

organizations. He's an attorney of some repute, at least according to the introduction that was given in

by Scott Gordon before he gave this talk at the 2023 Fair Conference.

And apparently, this is such a big gig that Steve Denzely took the same talk and at a minimum

has repeated it in Texas, January 20th,

2004 in Houston.

I don't know if he's repeated it anywhere else, but before it gets any more legs, you thought

it would be a good idea to talk about this address and see if there's any problems with it.

See if there's any problems with somebody saying, how do we prove the church true? You know, I'm going to be interested in that kind of thing. So when he was giving that speech, I went around the internet and I was like, where can I find this? I want to see what he has to say. I'm interested if somebody is in the apologetic sphere, they're a lawyer, and They say, this is how we prove the church true.

I'm very interested in that. And I was lucky enough to go do some digging into the far

reaches of the Fair LDS website to finally screen record. It's kind of hard to get my hands on

this. But we have a bunch of clips that we're going to go through and see what he has to say.

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