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No One Told Us

Rewind: Fostering a Secure Attachment with Michelle Charriere

No One Told Us

Rachael Shepard-Ohta

Society & Culture, Kids & Family, Parenting

4.9590 Ratings

🗓️ 2 October 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Rachael chats with birth-to-five mental health specialist Michelle Charriere about what it really takes to build (and repair) a secure attachment with your child. They cover the four attachment styles, why repair matters more than perfection, and how to choose childcare that supports connection...plus real talk on daycare and sleep training without the internet drama. And because they couldn’t resist, they end with a little Bravo TV fun, including Michelle’s pick for the best Housewives franchise to start with and a round of “F**k, Marry, Kill” (Bravo edition). Inside this episode: The four attachment styles (and why secure is the goal) How repair builds trust after ruptures Choosing childcare that supports emotional connection Thoughts on daycare and sleep training What to look for in a caregiver Bravo TV picks and guilty pleasures Mentioned in this episode: @babiesandbrains Parenting Through Attachment Course Childcare & Preschool Guide New Sibling Guide If you enjoyed this episode, please rate 5⭐️ and write us a review! ⬇️ ✨For sleep support and resources, visit heysleepybaby.com and follow @heysleepybaby on Instagram! 😴☁️🤎✨ Rachael is a mom of 3, founder of Hey, Sleepy Baby, and the host of this podcast. Instagram | Tiktok |  Website Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome back to No One Told Us. Today I'm talking to Michelle Sherrye, who is a birth to five mental health specialist and the brains behind the Instagram page babies and brains, which is super popular.

0:17.0

She has a background in community behavioral health and previously worked in home with families

0:21.6

involved in the foster care system, providing psychoeducation on attachment, trauma,

0:26.1

and development to help caregivers better understand and support their children.

0:30.4

She created babies and brains to reach more caregivers around the globe and provides information

0:34.8

and support through her digital courses, guides, and social media content.

0:38.9

And we talk almost every day. So it's so fun to actually talk to you in person and not just in

0:43.0

our like Instagram chats. So hi. Hi. I know. I'm so excited to be on here. I know. I think I've

0:48.8

chatted with you on video maybe like twice, but we like I know talk every day in our little chat.

0:53.8

I know. It's so fun. So we're kind of like in real life here. Maybe someday we'll actually get to, isn't it weird that like you can be so close with people that you've never even met in real life, like these internet friends that we have, it's very strange. I never would have thought it would have been me because I always was like, I was super

1:11.2

into catfish and I was like, I could just never be friends or like have a relationship with

1:15.2

random. I get it now. I understand how those people fall down those relationship rabbit holes.

1:23.0

So you started your page actually kind of around the same time as me, right? Like very beginning pandemic times, right?

1:30.9

Yeah.

1:31.4

It was July 2020.

1:33.0

So I think a few months after you did.

1:35.2

So yeah, pandemic time.

1:37.4

Yeah.

1:37.8

It was kind of like a perfect storm back then, I guess.

1:39.9

And your page is really taken off and it's super popular.

1:43.5

People love you. I feel like you've got that like community of raving fans who just like really are into you like as a person. Like they don't just love the information you provide, but they feel that kind of like parisocial like friendship with you. And I think that's because you do such a good job of like sharing without oversharing

2:01.9

parts of like your personal life and your struggles and behind the scenes of your business, which I think

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