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And I'm like, wow, that's pro life.

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So if you get feeling angry, how do you treat your spouse? Do you fight back? Do you push back or are you kind?

We're going to talk about that today on the focus on the family marriage

podcast with Dr. Greg Smalley. I'm John Fuller and let's begin with a

conversation Jim Daly and I had with Pastor Ted Cunningham. Greg we were just talking before we started.

Ted's a great friend of yours, isn't he?

Yeah, he was our pastor for many years when we lived in Branson, Missouri.

What I so appreciate about Ted, he's such a phenomenal communicator, a wonderful speaker

comedian, but I love his passion around helping people learn how to honor their marriage.

You know, Ted, last time you shared very candidly about the anger you had

when as a young pastor you were essentially asked to step down from the church and you kind

of caught yourself thinking through. I mean I don't know what pictures were going

through your mind but it seemed like you were processing pictures of

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