Welcome to episode two of The Oath in the Office.

I'm John Fugles-Seng, joined by the star of our show, the author of The Oath in the Office,

as well as the Presidents and the People, earth professor gory bret-sneider

hi corey hi john and uh lo and behold this storm does not stop we're still in the midst of

again not a constitutional crisis something much more looks like a coup yeah i want to talk about that

and it's interesting you know we're seeing a new kind of resistance or obstruction take form. And the adults in the room are the ones who are saying, I don't want to be in this room. This week, we just saw the New York Times report, Denise Chung, who's the highly respected criminal division chief for the U.S. Attorney's Office in D.C., abruptly resigned. She said she was given an unethical order to launch a criminal probe

and pursue an asset freeze on some government contact during the Biden administration. She said

she refused to betray her oath. Over 900 former federal prosecutors have signed an open letter

to prosecutors in the DOJ to remember their oath and to come forward if Trump appointees

demand them to do something unethical. And then Michelle King, who was the former acting

commissioner of the Social Security Administration, resigned because she wouldn't comply

with Doji's demand that she turned over data on millions of Americans, including their

social security numbers. And for me, Corey, in the midst of all of this, including their social security numbers.

And for me, Corey, in the midst of all of this, maybe the most inspiring quitting we've seen,

has been a Republican Danielle Sassoon, the interim U.S. attorney in charge of Eric Adams' public corruption case.

She resigned after they were told to drop the charges, and we saw half of that office resign. I've been dying to talk

about this case with you because it's been so inspiring. People in New York know what Eric Adams

has made of, but I don't know if the public at large is woke it up to the fact that we're witnessing

a gigantic quit pro quo happening. Absolutely. And, you know, this is a moment in which a lot of people

are looking for hope and

they're looking for heroes. And we've got them this week, exactly as you suggested. This crisis,

this coup is not a partisan matter. And if it just looked like Republicans versus Democrats,

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