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The Oath and The Office

Trump vs. The Constitution

The Oath and The Office

Corey Brettschneider

Government, News, Politics

4.9 • 591 Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Professor Corey Brettschneider and John Fugelsang discuss the coup that Donald Trump is carrying out against the Constitution and how he's doing it through birthright citizenship and an outright rejection of judicial review.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Episode 1 of The Oath in the Office, a brand new podcast about the Constitution, what it was, what it might still be, what it could still become.

0:19.5

I am John Fuglesang, and I am so pleased to welcome the star of our show,

0:23.6

the man who wrote the book, The Oath in the Office, Professor Corey Brechtnyder.

0:27.6

Hello, Corey.

0:28.6

Hi, John, thanks so much for doing this.

0:30.6

I'm so excited to be talking to you about this topic in such an important moment.

0:36.6

And maybe I should just say that in the first few

0:39.9

seconds in office, the president takes an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution.

0:45.5

But what we're facing at this moment and the reason why we're talking is that we are facing

0:50.4

a president who's doing anything but that, who's really threatening to collapse the system.

0:54.5

So that's the urgency that's really led us together to start this podcast.

0:59.9

Well, and that's why I was so intrigued to do this with you, Professor, because you've done my show on Sirius XM for years, and I've learned so much about the Constitution.

1:10.1

I've actually been able to talk my way

1:12.5

into a couple of law schools fraudulently based on how much I've learned from you. And I have to say,

1:17.8

there's a lot of podcasts out there about the very curious predicament we're in. This is not a podcast

1:24.3

where we're necessarily going to be talking about all the Trump supporters losing $2 billion because they invested in his meme coin, although it's kind of hilarious.

1:33.2

This is not a show about Secretary Yeagermeister telling Russia, go ahead and keep Ukraine.

1:37.4

And we're not really doing a show about apartheid nepo babies abusing ketamine, although they might come up.

1:43.6

This is a show about the Constitution, this is a show about the

1:45.1

Constitution. This is a show about the oath a president takes. This is a show about the very real

1:50.2

jeopardy we all find ourselves in. I'm guessing that's why you wanted to do this, Professor.

1:55.2

Absolutely. This is a show prompted by how dire the moment is, and part of what I want us to do

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