That is suddenly my new litmus test on technology.

Is what I'm doing going to pull me farther away from the community that I am here to serve?

Yeah. Have you ever wondered what it would be like to just throw your phone away and go live in a monastery or with the Amish for a little bit?

I bet you have. Okay, maybe not specifically, but similar, right? What would happen if you shut it all down and just change your life temporarily? What would that be like?

Well, my friend Carlos did just that and he has a story and some amazing insights to share us.

This is going to be so fun. Without further ado,

here's my friend Carlos. Carlos, for so many years when I thought about who is the person

who just owned social media and is on social media all the time, like this guy, his stories

are out of control, everything's going viral. He lives

on his phone. It was Carlos Whitaker. Absolutely. But then you told me a few months ago, hey, by the way,

I forget how you said, but basically, like, I left my phone at home and I went and lived at a monastery,

and I was like, I can't wait to hear this story.

What led up to this?

And here we are.

Yes, what led up to this?

First, I would need to let everybody that is listening to this note.

Ali Worthington is the very first human being that is able to ask me any of these questions.

You're like the first podcast I'm talking about this on.

So every question is going to be the answers are like legit coming from. able to ask me any of these questions. You're like the first podcast I'm talking about this on.

So every question is going to be the answers are like legit coming from my soul. What led to this was at the beginning of 2022, just like you said, Carlos Whitaker was always on his phone,

always sharing stories, always doing things. And you know Sundays you get that screen time

notification, right? That comes across your phone. that 99% people just kind of swipe away because we

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