Hey, everybody. We have a good one for you today. I was delighted to welcome Sarah McBride to the show for the first time. I got to meet her last year at the Bullwark Live event. And she's just so good and thoughtful and do stick around for, I think, a pretty stirring and important rant that she gives at the very end of the show. I do want to know one technical thing. We had some gremlins, some internet gremlins this morning that made our fancy audio

system that producer Jason navigates to make everything sound beautiful and chocolatey in

your ears every day.

That broke down.

So we're using, you know,

basement podcast audio equipment today. As such, you know, they're going to be some crackles.

And I apologize for that. Hopefully we'll get that fixed for tomorrow's show.

As we were sitting down for the show, Trump was giving an insane speech at Davos. We get into that a little bit at the top.

JVL Sam and Andrew did a full breakdown of that over on the Bullwark Takes feed. If you want to

check out that as well. Before we get to Sarah, I want to talk about one thing. And so I feel a little bit like emotional manipulation.

And in some ways, I'm kind of, I'm emotionally manipulating myself a little bit because I do think it's important to make sure we are feeling the reality of what is happening in the country right now.

And I think back to at a moment

late in the 2016 campaign when a friend of mine who was a Republican strategist talked

about how he was with me on Trump because his daughters, he's Hispanic, his daughters were getting bullied at school

and called a bunch of names and being like, Trump's going to deport you and blah, blah, blah.

That really, like, got me at the time, stuck with me in a lot of ways.

One, I got very mad on his behalf and then later kind of mad that I was more

mad than he was maybe, but that's for another day. And through the first term, like through the

first year or two, like it was something that I talked about a lot. You know, like I felt like I'd make

fun of myself and be like, I'm like Maude Flanders over here going like, won't somebody think of the children. But it was legit, though, also. This has real ramifications, right? Like, some people just don't believe the politics matters and the president matters. And, okay, that's a point of view. That's not mine. Like, I believe that what the president says matters, that his words matter and that there is a trickle-down effect through society. And maybe it doesn't affect everybody. But there are people out there, young people that are getting radicalized. There are young people out there that are getting bullied. And maybe that radicalizes them in a different way. And there are people that are going to grow up thinking that they don't have opportunity

in this world.

And, you know, like there will be ripple effects.

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