Hi everyone welcome to the A6 and Z podcast I'm Sonhol.

For this week's episode we have one of our hallway style conversations and this one is

literally like eavesdropping in on a debate and discussion that actually started as a Twitter thread debate and discussion all around the question of whether and how data and

AI slash ML machine learning companies are different than software companies and what that means for the future of

software businesses. Our guest even questions our view of software eating the world or rather

ask what happens when software is software eating the world, or rather asks,

what happens when software is everywhere?

What comes next?

Our guest is Peter Wang, the co-founder and CEO

of Anaconda, who also leads their open source

and community innovation group, as well as created the

Pie Data Community and Conferences, and has devoted a lot of time and energy to growing the

data science community there.

And he's in conversation with A6 and Z general partner Martin

Kossado who's written a lot about the evolution of software businesses the new age of

data and especially AIML economics you can find those pieces at A6cency.com

slash ML economics.

The two dive into a number of themes

throughout this conversation,

ranging from open source and crowdsores innovation and the messy ways that

innovation really plays out to what it means when you move from hardware to

software to data and AIML, abstracting something that is not just complicated but actually complex.

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