Recode Decode: Silicon Valley loves to break the rules. Is that a good thing?

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.3 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 November 2018

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

University of Maryland professor and cultural psychologist Michele Gelfand talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her new book, "Rule Makers, Rule Breakers: How Tight and Loose Cultures Wire Our Minds." In this episode: (01:14) How Gelfand became a cultural psychologist; (03:12) Why some countries have more rules than others; (08:35) Are techies rule breakers?; (13:28) What changes as successful companies get bigger?; (18:38) Why didn't anyone think about the psychological impact of the internet?; (23:18) Is there really a "Goldilocks" solution to rule culture?; (28:39) Are we entering an era of rule making?; (32:03) Can people find common ground on the internet?; (34:46) What should tech leaders be thinking about?; (39:53) What they should do now Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:57.0	I'm Mike, which you had to better fucking follow or else.
1:00.0	But in my spare time, I talk tech and you're listening to Reco Decode from the Vox Media Podcast Network.
1:05.0	Today in the red chair is Michelle Gelfand, a cultural psychologist and distinguished university professor at the University of Maryland.
1:12.0	She's the author of a new book called Rulemakers, Rule Breakers, How, Tight and Loose Cultures, Why Are Our Minds.
1:18.0	It's about why countries, societies, businesses, individuals follow rules, and why others do the exact opposite.
1:24.0	So, I'm a great, perfect topic for tech people. Michelle, welcome to Reco Decode.
1:27.0	Great to be here.
1:28.0	So, let's talk a little bit about your background.
1:30.0	How do you get to become a cultural psychologist? What does that mean?
1:33.0	Well, you know, I took a major pivot when I was in college. I was pre-med, and then I went abroad to London.
1:37.0	I was sort of a sheltered, long island kid who saw New York and the world through that famous New York cartoon.
1:42.0	I went to London, and I was totally shocked by the sounds and the jokes.
1:46.0	You still have the long island.
1:47.0	I got the long island.
1:48.0	You did. I go up and long island.
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