Recode Decode: Facebook and Google are “the enemies of independent thought”

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.3 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 3 December 2018

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

The Atlantic national correspondent Franklin Foer talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his book, "World Without Mind: The Existential Threat of Big Tech," which recently came out in paperback. In this episode: (01:37) Foer's background at Slate and the New Republic; (06:12) Chris Hughes and Guy Vidra; (13:59) Resigning from the New Republic; (19:26) How Foer started thinking about tech monopolies; (23:06) Why is the book called "World Without Mind?"; (28:23) Why did it take so long for people to turn on tech?; (35:03) Solutions; (41:33) What happens next?; (50:00) Will Trump do anything to break up tech? Subscribe to Recode Media with Peter Kafka Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | Spotify | Stitcher | Overcast | Pocket Casts Subscribe to Pivot with Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | Spotify | Stitcher | Overcast | Pocket Casts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Sabotage hired goons and a landfill in Utah.
0:05.0	How Steve Jobs' revolutionary catastrophe of a computer, the Apple Lisa, earned a brief
0:10.7	second life and then was buried for good.
0:14.8	Watch the Verges documentary, Lisa's final act, now on YouTube.
0:19.4	Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor at Large of Recode.
0:25.4	You may know me as the organizer of a popular board game, Knight for Tech CEOs.
0:29.8	They always want to play monopoly, but in my spare time I talk tech and you're listening
0:33.4	to Recode Decode from the Vox Media Podcast Network.
0:36.7	Today in the red chair is Franklin IV, the national correspondent for the Atlantic and
0:40.9	former editor of the New Republic.
0:43.0	His most recent book is World Without Mind, the existential threat of big tech which just
0:47.4	came out in paperback Frank Welcom to Recode Decode.
0:50.2	So honored to be here.
0:51.2	So we ran into each other at a Washington DC party the other night.
0:55.0	This one is prone to do.
0:56.0	An odd one in thoughtly.
0:57.0	It was by David Gregory, thank you David for having us.
0:59.4	It was a delicious meal with Beth Wilkinson his wife.
1:02.0	And it was really interesting.
1:03.0	It was my first big Washington party since living here part time.
1:05.6	Yeah.
1:06.6	It was interesting to hear.
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