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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Recode Decode: How disinformation poisoned a ‘Facebook nation’

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.33.2K Ratings

🗓️ 26 November 2018

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Rappler co-founder Maria Ressa talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about doing investigative journalism in the Philippines, where social media has emboldened an autocratic president. In this episode: (01:20) Ressa's background and the People Power Movement; (05:49) How she became a TV journalist on CNN and ABS-CBN; (10:35) Leaving ABS-CBN for the internet; (15:18) Starting Rappler; (25:54) "The Philippines is the cautionary tale for the United States"; (30:55) Bots and Facebook's non-response; (42:36) The lawsuits against Rappler; (48:37) What Ressa wants Facebook to do; (50:42) Why she's going back to the Philippines Notes from our sponsors:LEGO: In today's show you heard advertising content from The LEGO Store. With LEGO, every gift has a story. Start your story today at https://LEGO.build/Recode-Ship Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Sabotage, hired goons and a landfill in Utah.

0:05.0

How Steve Jobs' revolutionary catastrophe of a computer, the Apple Lisa, earned a brief

0:10.7

second life and then was buried for good.

0:14.8

Watch the Verges documentary, Lisa's final act, now on YouTube.

0:20.1

Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor-Large of Recode.

0:25.4

You may know me as a very model of a modern media mogul, but in my spare time I talked

0:29.8

to tech and you're listening to Recode Decode from the Vox Media Podcast Network.

0:33.9

Today in the red chair, I am honored to have Maria Ressa.

0:36.8

She's the CEO of Rappler.

0:38.2

It's a news website based in the Philippines that started as a Facebook page before co-founding

0:43.8

the company in 2011.

0:44.8

She was an investigative reporter at CNN and she's a hero in journalism.

0:49.5

You'll find out why as you start to talk about it.

0:51.8

She has been doing some stuff that puts her in danger and puts herself in danger of

0:56.2

what's happening in the Philippines, which is irreprehensible.

0:59.8

In any case, welcome to Recode Decode.

1:01.9

Thanks for having me.

1:02.9

Maria, I want you to tell your story.

1:05.0

You gave a speech.

1:06.0

You just won an award at the International Center for Foreign Journalists at an event.

1:10.3

I was at.

1:11.8

You gave a speech talking about what's happening.

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