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Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor at Large of Recode.

You may know me as the curator of the museum dedicated to Chrissy Teigen's Instagram posts, but in my spare time I talk tech, and you're listening to Recode Decode from the Vox Media Podcast Network.

Today in the red chair is Michael Conner, the artistic director of Ryzom, a digital art community affiliated with the New Museum in New York City, where I am right now.

Ryzom is currently running an exhibit, a fascinating exhibit, at the museum highlighting the history of art made on the internet.

It's called The Art Happens Here. Click here, apparently, on your book, which is really wonderful.

I have a wonderful book affiliated with it. Michael, welcome to Recode Decode.

It's great to be here.

So I'm so excited about this, because there's a couple in there I do recall, the Dolly clone, I recall that, and some others.

I've been around since the beginning of the internet, I covered it very early.

Art was something I hadn't thought of, although it occurred on it all the time, and there's memes, and there's creativity, and all kinds of things.

So I'd love to get an idea of how this came together, and then I want to talk about the actual individual pieces, and there's some you want to focus in on.

So let's talk about how it came together.

Sure. Well, I think that story is sort of an extricable from the story of Ryzom itself, which is an organization that was founded in 1996.

So pretty early, and the lifecycle of the public internet, and it came together as an online community to bring people together to share information, and talk about this new kind of communications platform, and how it could be artistically.

But very quickly after that, it evolved into a conversation about how works that were made through that new platform could be sustained over time.

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