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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Recode Decode: Michele Madansky

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.33.2K Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2019

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Media market research consultant Michele Madansky talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about The Elephant in the Valley, her study into the prevalence of harassment in tech that was first conducted in 2016 and recently updated with new statistics. In this episode: Madansky's background; the first edition of Elephant in the Valley and its aftermath; how does harassment in tech compare to other industries?; is harassment still the elephant in the room?; what's worse since 2016, what's the same, and what's better?; why Madansky is optimistic; Gen Z and growing acceptance of women as breadwinners; how to change the numbers; is Madansky worried about #MeToo fatigue?; and her advice for the tech companies she advises. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Support for this show comes from Into the Mix, a Ben and Jerry's podcast about joy and justice produced with Fox Creative.

0:07.0

As state legislatures consider more than 500 anti-trans bills, the latest episode of Into the Mix asks,

0:13.0

how best to support and protect transgender youth.

0:16.0

Like Olioski, a young man who, despite growing up in a loving and supportive home,

0:20.0

felt the need for friendship with other trans and queer kids.

0:23.0

At just seven years old, he took initiative and built a lasting community.

0:27.0

That story, on Into the Mix, subscribe now.

0:57.0

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1:04.0

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1:27.0

I'm going to talk about it, what has changed in the past couple of years, and of course, what hasn't Michelle, welcome to Reco D-Code.

1:36.0

Thank you for having me.

1:38.0

So you're just going to talk and tell me things.

1:40.0

I would love to know what's good, let's go through what you do, tell the people what you've done in your long and storied career.

1:45.0

Okay, so I am a independent market research consultant, and I work mainly with digital media companies.

1:52.0

So my clients have been Pinterest, Twitter, Cheg, Baby Center, Postmates, Uber, etc.

1:58.0

My last full-time job was at Yahoo, where I ran market research from 2003 to 2007.

2:04.0

And you find out people didn't like Yahoo.

2:07.0

They did at the time. It was a good time to be at Yahoo.

2:10.0

Yeah, I know.

2:11.0

And I'm here because I'm co-author of the Elephant Valley, which I'm going to talk about, but I kind of got into this project in a very sideways manner.

2:20.0

Right. So most people that we've heard about who are talking about gender bias in tech had something bad happen to them.

2:27.0

Ellen Pous was in follower, etc.

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