Recode Decode: CNN's Jim Sciutto

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.3 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2019

⏱️ 57 minutes

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CNN's chief national security correspondent Jim Sciutto talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new book, The Shadow War: Inside Russia’s and China's Secret Operations to Defeat America. In this episode: Sciutto’s background and the 30th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square Protests; being a foreign correspondent; working for the Chinese ambassador and returning to journalism; being a journalist at CNN in the Trump era; Americans’ post-Cold War delusions about Russia; why failures to recognize Russia and China as threats have been bipartisan; how both countries have made themselves adversaries of the US; what Russia has done beyond election hacking, including "kamikaze satellites"; China’s theft of state secrets; should we be making phones in China?; why AI is now a battlefield; what do Russia and China actually want, and what does defeat look like?; America's deeply partisan politics; the policy steps to end the shadow war; and the impact of Trump's trade war with China. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:48.0	Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor-Large of Reco.
0:53.0	You may know me as someone who thinks the world should make shadow love, not shadow war, but in my spare time I talk tech and you're listening to Reco Decode from the Vox Media Podcast Network.
1:02.0	Today in the red chair is Jim Shudo, the Chief National Security Correspondent for CNN and co-anchor of its daily CNN newsroom.
1:11.0	He's also the author of recently released book, The Shadow War Inside Russia and China's Secret Operations to Defeat America, which is quite pertinent right now.
1:19.0	Jim, welcome to Reco Decode.
1:21.0	Thanks so much for having me, real pleasure.
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1:35.0	This is a topic that I talk about a lot.
1:38.0	You cover national security, and obviously cyber security is an important part of it.
1:42.0	I was putting a lot of time with Ash Carter, a bunch of other people talking about this topic.
1:46.0	He's in the book. Exactly, that's what I was talking about.
1:48.0	So let's talk a little bit. I want to get to the book in a second.
1:50.0	Let's talk about your background, how you got to what you're doing, including covering national security and anchoring CNN, which is sort of in the middle of, you know, it itself has become a topic in this administration.
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