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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Recode Decode: Girls Who Code CEO Reshma Saujani

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.33.2K Ratings

🗓️ 3 June 2019

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Girls Who Code CEO Reshma Saujani talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the challenges facing women in the tech industry and what everyone can do to make progress happen faster. In this episode: The 60 Minutes problem; what Girls Who Code does; how it compares to other diversity-in-coding groups; how much progress have we made so far?; the link between perfectionism and "fitting in"; the lousy excuses for homogeneous hiring; how Google and Microsoft could become the new Goldman Sachs; sexual harassment and the impact of #MeToo; bringing new investors into the ecosystem; what parents should tell their daughters; and where are the role models? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Sabotage, hired goons and a landfill in Utah.

0:05.0

How Steve Jobs' revolutionary catastrophe of a computer, the Apple Lisa, earned a brief

0:10.7

second life and then was buried for good.

0:14.8

Watch the Verges documentary, Lisa's final act, now on YouTube.

0:23.0

Hi I'm Cara Swisher, Editor-large of Recode.

0:25.3

You may know me as the woman who wishes you could code like a girl, but in my spare time

0:28.8

I talk tech and you're listening to Recode Decode from the Vox Media Podcast Network.

0:33.3

Today in the red chair is Reshma Sagani, the founder and CEO of Girls Who Code, a nonprofit

0:38.3

that's working to close the gender gap in technology.

0:41.0

It offers after-school programs, summer classes, a series of books and more.

0:44.5

Reshma, welcome to Recode Decode.

0:46.4

Thank you for having me, Cara.

0:47.4

So we've talked before, we've talked quite a bit before, lots of stuff.

0:50.7

The reason we're starting to talk is under some controversy, there was a 60 minutes, explain

0:54.7

what, how you got here essentially.

0:56.6

Because we've talked many times for along with all the other groups that are doing coding

1:00.5

and that's all that stuff.

1:01.5

So 60 minutes had done a story about girls encoding and we had actually spoken to, I

1:08.1

had actually spoken to Leslie Slull years ago about doing an episode on this because she

1:12.8

had actually done this incredible episode about girls in science and we had talked, talked,

1:16.8

talked.

1:17.8

We had gotten an email from a producer finally being like, we're doing this story.

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