Recode Decode: Undocumented immigrants are people, not political props

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.3 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 24 November 2018

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Jose Antonio Vargas talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his book, "Dear America: Notes of an Undocumented Citizen," and how the shift the cultural conversation about immigration. In this episode: (01:34) Vargas' background and why he became a journalist; (06:54) How he became an undocumented immigrant; (16:38) Class differences and telling the truth; (22:19) Did Vargas have any other options?; (27:09) Legality, politics and power; (32:42) Coming out as undocumented; (38:16) Storytelling and humanizing immigrants; (42:53) How social media factors in; (45:58) How Vargas defines "citizen"; (50:01) What he will do next Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Sabotage hired goons and a landfill in Utah.
0:05.0	How Steve Jobs' revolutionary catastrophe of a computer, the Apple Lisa, earned a brief
0:10.7	second life and then was buried for good.
0:14.8	Watch the Verges documentary, Lisa's final act, now on YouTube.
0:19.8	Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor-Large of Recode.
0:26.1	You may know me as someone who thinks we should send Jeff Sessions back home to the North
0:29.7	Pole, but in my spare time I talk tech and you're listening to Recode Decode from the
0:33.4	Box Media Podcast Network.
0:35.6	Today in the red chair is Jose Antonio Vargas, a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist, documentary
0:40.4	filmmaker and now a book author.
0:42.7	His new book is called Dear America, Notes from an Undocumented Citizen.
0:46.8	Jose, welcome to Recode Decode.
0:48.8	Thank you so much for having me.
0:49.8	Thank you.
0:50.8	We've had traffic problems here in New York, didn't we?
0:52.8	Yes, yes.
0:53.9	Anyway, I'm so excited to talk about this, but I want people to get a sense of who you
0:57.5	are first and I want to talk a little bit about your background, how you got to decide
1:01.2	to write this because you've been a journalist from much of your career.
1:04.5	Yeah, like when I, so I found that I was really legally when I was 16 and then my English
1:10.0	teacher, this was the 1997, my English teacher Mrs. DuWarr said I asked too many annoying
1:14.1	questions and I should do this thing called journalism.
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