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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Recode Decode: Franklin Leonard

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.33.2K Ratings

🗓️ 31 January 2020

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

The Black List founder Franklin Leonard talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about how he accidentally created one of the most important lists in Hollywood and how he turned it into a real business for connecting screenwriters with producers. Leonard also talks about the statistics that show the benefits of reading scripts from diverse writers and the mostly-white 2020 Oscar nominations, about which he wrote a satirical op-ed for the Washington Post. Plus: Why he doesn't expect AI to replace human readers. Click here to read a full transcript of this interview. Featuring: Franklin Leonard (@FranklinLeonard), founder, The Black List (@theblcklst) Host: Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large More to explore: Subscribe for free to Reset, Recode's new podcast that explores why — and how — tech is changing everything. About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us. Follow Us: Newsletter: Recode Daily Twitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

I'm Gideon Litchfield, I'm the editor-in-chief of Oired.

0:02.6

And I'm Lauren Good, I'm a senior writer at Wired.

0:05.2

We're making a new show.

0:06.5

Have a nice future.

0:09.0

I'm more have a nice future, question mark.

0:12.5

It's a show that is honest about how unsettling the future can be.

0:16.9

We're going to be bringing on the people shaping this future.

0:20.6

We're going to ask them about the big challenges we face, about the challenges they're creating,

0:24.9

and how they deal with living in perpetual uncertainty as we all do.

0:29.3

So make sure you follow Have a Nice Future, wherever you get your podcasts.

0:36.0

Hi, I'm Karras Wischer, editor at Large of Recode.

0:38.0

You may know me as someone who wears sunglasses everywhere because Silicon Valley is too

0:41.6

white to look at with a naked eye.

0:43.6

But in my spare time, I'm just a reporter and you're listening to Recode decode,

0:46.7

a podcast about power change in the people you need to know around tech and beyond.

0:50.4

We're part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

0:52.8

Today in the red chair, I'm really pleased to have Franklin Leonard, the founder of the

0:56.4

hugely influential, The Blacklist.

0:58.6

It's an annual survey of the screenplays that are most admired in Hollywood,

1:01.9

but which have not yet been produced.

1:03.8

Many movies that he and his colleagues have highlighted on the Blacklist have gone on to be

1:07.6

beloved films, including Itanya Spotlight, Jojo Rabbit, and a beautiful day in the neighborhood.

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