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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Recode Decode: Dave Eggers

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.33.2K Ratings

🗓️ 3 February 2020

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Writer and McSweeney's founder Dave Eggers talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his latest novel, The Captain and the Glory, why he chose to write a satirical novel about the Trump era, and what he's learned from interviewing Trump supporters that most people on the left wouldn't expect. Eggers also discusses his writing nonprofit, 826 Valencia; why he has a flip phone rather than a smartphone; and what he thinks of his novel about a technology company, The Circle, in hindsight. Plus: Why Trump, not Obama, is the first social media president. Featuring: Dave Eggers, author, The Captain and the Glory Host: Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large More to explore: Subscribe for free to Reset, Recode's new podcast that explores why — and how — tech is changing everything. About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us. Follow Us: Newsletter: Recode Daily Twitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

I'm Gideon Litchfield, I'm the editor-in-chief of Oired.

0:02.6

And I'm Lauren Good, I'm a senior writer at Wired.

0:05.2

We're making a new show.

0:06.5

Have a nice future.

0:09.0

I'm more have a nice future, question mark.

0:12.5

It's a show that is honest about how unsettling the future can be.

0:16.9

We're going to be bringing on the people shaping this future.

0:20.6

We're going to ask them about the big challenges we face, about the challenges they're creating,

0:24.9

and how they deal with living in perpetual uncertainty as we all do.

0:29.2

So make sure you follow Have a Nice Future, wherever you get your podcasts.

0:35.7

Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor-in-Large of Reco.

0:38.0

You may know me as Donald Trump's Dietitian, and I'm proud to say he is taking my advice.

0:42.5

I'm only eating garbage, but in my spare time I'm just a reporter and you're listening to Reco D-Code,

0:47.1

a podcast about power change, and the people you need to know around tech and beyond

0:51.4

were part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

0:54.1

Today is my pleasure to have in the Red Chair Dave Eggers,

0:57.5

the founder of McSweeney's and the author of so many books, including The Circle,

1:01.6

and a memoir, A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius.

1:04.6

Everyone knows who Dave Eggers is.

1:06.2

His most recent novel is called The Captain and the Glory, and it's about a nobleship

1:10.3

captain by an ignorant, proud, cheeseburger, loving man with no experience

1:15.0

who leads a gang of deplorable liars.

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