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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Recode Decode: Ezra Klein

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.33.2K Ratings

🗓️ 29 January 2020

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Vox.com co-founder Ezra Klein talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new book, Why We're Polarized, the rise of systemic "zero sum" party politics, and how Klein himself has been polarizing in the Trump era. Klein and Swisher also discuss the racial, religious, and urban/rural splits between Democrats and Republicans, the (good and bad) impact of social media on the public discourse, and the one thing regular people can do to combat polarization in their own lives. Plus: Why "Congress should stop being such a bunch of wimps." Featuring: Ezra Klein (@EzraKlein), host of The Ezra Klein Show and author, Why We're Polarized Host: Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large More to explore: Subscribe for free to Reset, Recode's new podcast that explores why — and how — tech is changing everything. About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us. Follow Us: Newsletter: Recode Daily Twitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Every year we bring together a group of incredible people for three days of

0:03.9

conversation and networking at the Code Conference. This year code is back in

0:07.9

Los Angeles and I'll be speaking with the people at the forefront of tech,

0:10.7

including European tech regulator at Margarit Vestager, Microsoft CEO Sachin

0:15.4

Adela and Google CEO Sundar Pachai. And we've just announced the Disney CEO,

0:20.4

Bob Iger, will be joining me on stage for a live interview about what comes

0:23.8

next for one of the world's biggest media companies. And fine, I guess we can

0:27.9

talk about baby Yoda too. If you're an executive, you can apply to attend the

0:31.7

Code Conference at events dot recode dot net slash code or just tap the link to

0:37.5

the application in the show notes. Hope to see you there.

0:43.2

I'm Goodie and Litchfield. I'm the editor-in-chief of Wired. And I'm Lauren

0:46.4

Good. I'm a senior writer at Wired. We're making a new show. Have a nice future.

0:51.9

I'm more have a nice future. Question mark. It's a show that is honest about

0:58.1

how unsettling the future can be. We're going to be bringing on the people shaping

1:02.6

this future. We're going to ask them about the big challenges we face about the

1:06.1

challenges they're creating and how they deal with living in perpetual uncertainty

1:11.3

as we all do. So make sure you follow have a nice future wherever you get your

1:15.1

podcasts.

1:16.0

Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, editor at large of recode. You may know me as someone

1:22.3

starting a traveling Wilburry style supergroup of Vox podcasters. But in my spare

1:26.9

time, I'm just a reporter and you're listening to recode decode a podcast about

1:30.2

power change and the people you need to know around tech and well beyond. We're part

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