Recode Decode: Casey Newton and Louie Swisher

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Business, Technology

4.2 • 3.4K Ratings

🗓️ 18 May 2020

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Recode's Kara Swisher talks with her older son, Louie Swisher, and the Silicon Valley editor of the Verge, Casey Newton. Thank you to all of our listeners for 300 episodes. Here's to 300 more! In this episode: (01:27) The mess at Facebook and blaming Sheryl Sandberg; (06:01) Why Louie is cutting back on Snapchat and why Instagram is a “museum”; (08:38) The return of the group chat and the future of Instagram; (16:42) New social networks and Vine 2.0; (21:52) TikTok, teens and Facebook’s Lasso; (25:04) The integrity of memes and Reddit; (28:29) Gab, Donald Trump and becoming desensitized to nastiness; (35:17) Twitter, Snap Maps and privacy; (42:18) What tech hardware do Louie and Casey rely on?; (47:52) “Spider-Man,” “Assassin’s Creed: Odyssey” and “Red Dead Redemption 2”; (51:21) The PS4 Pro and "Wii Sports Resort" (53:15) Kara reads quotes about death; (56:26) Predictions for 2019 in tech Subscribe to Recode Media with Peter Kafka Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | Spotify | Stitcher | Overcast | Pocket Casts Subscribe to Pivot with Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | Spotify | Stitcher | Overcast | Pocket Casts Read The Interface by Casey Newton theverge.com/interface Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	I'm Gideon Litchfield, I'm the editor-in-chief of Oired.
0:02.6	And I'm Lauren Good, I'm a senior writer at Wired.
0:05.2	We're making a new show.
0:06.5	Have a nice future.
0:09.0	I'm more have a nice future, question mark.
0:12.5	It's a show that is honest about how unsettling the future can be.
0:16.9	We're going to be bringing on the people shaping this future.
0:20.6	We're going to ask them about the big challenges we face, about the challenges they're creating,
0:24.9	and how they deal with living in perpetual uncertainty as we all do.
0:29.2	So make sure you follow Have a Nice Future, wherever you get your podcasts.
0:35.8	Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor-at-large RECode.
0:38.3	You may know me as someone who is constantly surrounded by tall men.
0:42.2	Thank God everyone is the same height on Zoom, but in my spare time, I'm just a reporter.
0:46.6	And you're listening to RECode D-code, a podcast about power change,
0:49.4	and the people you need to know were part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.
0:53.7	Today in the red chair, there is no red chair anymore.
0:56.2	We have two fan favorites.
0:58.2	And it's the last time they're going to be together on this RECode D-code,
1:01.8	because I'm moving along to another place.
1:03.9	First up is Casey Newton from the Virge, who over the past couple of years
1:07.6	has done some incredible reporting on Facebook's moderation system
1:10.8	that culminated in a $52 million settlement for just a few days ago
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